1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Jay Barbree: Senator Glenn 2 00:00:02,001 --> 00:00:05,001 John Glenn: I'm not sure I got the whole thing being the age I am. [laughter] 3 00:00:05,002 --> 00:00:06,002 Jay Barbree: Courage, the right stuff. 4 00:00:06,003 --> 00:00:08,003 John Glenn: Repeat the question. 5 00:00:08,004 --> 00:00:12,004 Jay Barbree: She wants to know where you get your courage from. 6 00:00:12,005 --> 00:00:16,005 To climb on an Atlas rocket that has probably blown up 7 00:00:16,006 --> 00:00:18,006 more times than it flew right, 8 00:00:18,007 --> 00:00:20,007 and you rode it into orbit. 9 00:00:20,008 --> 00:00:22,008 She wanted to know how you got that courage. 10 00:00:22,009 --> 00:00:24,009 John Glenn: People say during launch, you know, 11 00:00:24,010 --> 00:00:28,010 that's the most crucial time and where you're changing things the most 12 00:00:28,011 --> 00:00:29,011 and where all the thrust is on there 13 00:00:29,012 --> 00:00:31,112 and what do you think about when you're getting ready to launch? 14 00:00:31,113 --> 00:00:35,113 And I think the question goes back to, 15 00:00:35,114 --> 00:00:38,114 "How do you think you'd feel if you new you were on top of 2 million parts 16 00:00:38,115 --> 00:00:40,215 built by the lowest bidder on a government contract. [laughter] 17 00:00:40,216 --> 00:00:48,216 That's the flippant answer. 18 00:00:48,217 --> 00:00:54,217 I think you develop courage in a couple of areas. 19 00:00:54,218 --> 00:00:57,218 One, you develop this by what your purpose is, 20 00:00:57,219 --> 00:00:59,219 the mission, your dedicated to the mission 21 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:04,220 and by the preparation and that gives you confidence 22 00:01:04,221 --> 00:01:06,221 you can really do this thing that you've really tried 23 00:01:06,222 --> 00:01:10,222 to see all the aspects of it and all the things that can go wrong. 24 00:01:10,223 --> 00:01:12,223 You try to take care of all these things before you launch. 25 00:01:12,224 --> 00:01:14,224 John Glenn: So I think it comes from two things. 26 00:01:14,225 --> 00:01:18,325 One, dedication to the country and what you think is important for the country. 27 00:01:18,326 --> 00:01:21,326 Back in the early days it was the competition with the Soviets 28 00:01:21,327 --> 00:01:26,327 who we weren't sure then they might be taking over the world. 29 00:01:26,328 --> 00:01:30,328 And then its preparation, and preparation, and preparation 30 00:01:30,329 --> 00:01:32,329 that gives you confidence to go. 31 00:01:32,330 --> 00:01:36,330 Jim Lovell: Well, sometimes when you're confronted with a problem 32 00:01:36,331 --> 00:01:38,331 and there is no alternative, 33 00:01:38,332 --> 00:01:46,332 you either had to have the courage to continue or your lost and consequently, on Apollo 13, 34 00:01:46,333 --> 00:01:50,333 when the explosion first occurred, and we didn't know what happened, 35 00:01:50,334 --> 00:01:54,334 and at first we didn't think we were in that danger 36 00:01:54,335 --> 00:01:58,335 until I saw the oxygen escaping from the spacecraft 37 00:01:58,336 --> 00:02:02,336 and then I realized that we were in serious danger 38 00:02:02,337 --> 00:02:04,337 and we looked around to see what we had to use 39 00:02:04,338 --> 00:02:09,338 and the Lunar module, fortunately, was a part of our system 40 00:02:09,339 --> 00:02:13,339 and then we worked very closely 41 00:02:13,340 --> 00:02:17,340 with a dedicated group of people at the Mission Control Center, 42 00:02:17,341 --> 00:02:21,341 which indicated to me that the good leadership 43 00:02:21,342 --> 00:02:25,342 and the team work that evolved from that 44 00:02:25,343 --> 00:02:28,343 was the initiative of the perseverance and the motivation 45 00:02:28,344 --> 00:02:30,344 of these people working with the crew 46 00:02:30,345 --> 00:02:38,345 crew indicated that Apollo 13 was not just another space flight 47 00:02:38,346 --> 00:02:44,346 of dangerous situations but really a classic case of crisis management. 48 00:02:44,347 --> 00:02:48,347 Jay Barbree: Neil Armstrong, you started to land Eagle on the moon. 49 00:02:48,348 --> 00:02:51,348 You found out I believe that they were heading you 50 00:02:51,349 --> 00:02:55,349 toward a crater that you didn't want to land in 51 00:02:55,350 --> 00:03:00,350 and you had to fly your ship across the surface of the moon 52 00:03:00,351 --> 00:03:03,351 until you could find a spot to sit it down. 53 00:03:03,352 --> 00:03:08,552 I think you had sixteen seconds of fuel left, can you tell us what that was like? 54 00:03:08,553 --> 00:03:14,553 Neil Armstrong: No Pilot likes to land in a bad place. [laughter] 55 00:03:14,554 --> 00:03:16,554 Jay Barbree: Great. 56 00:03:16,555 --> 00:03:25,555 Neil Armstrong: Pilots, by nature, will go to any extreme to find a good place to land. 57 00:03:25,556 --> 00:03:28,556 And that's what we did. [laughter/applause] 58 00:03:28,557 --> 00:03:29,557 Jay Barbree: And that's what you did. 59 00:03:29,558 --> 00:03:32,558 Jay Barbree: What we would like to know from you, Neil, 60 00:03:32,559 --> 00:03:36,559 what it was like to step onto that moon 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,560 and turn around and take your first steps, 62 00:03:39,561 --> 00:03:45,561 and really learn how to walk into reverse on that surface. 63 00:03:45,562 --> 00:03:51,562 Neil Armstrong: We had a few people that thought it was going to be very difficult 64 00:03:51,563 --> 00:03:56,563 to walk on the surface for whatever reasons they believed that to be true. 65 00:03:56,564 --> 00:04:00,564 In our simulations sometimes were a little difficult. 66 00:04:00,565 --> 00:04:04,865 But the human is remarkably adaptive 67 00:04:04,866 --> 00:04:08,866 and what we found out was that by the 68 00:04:08,867 --> 00:04:12,867 time we had just stood around in the cockpit for a couple hours 69 00:04:12,868 --> 00:04:14,068 we were completely adapted 70 00:04:14,069 --> 00:04:17,069 and when we walked on off of the craft onto the surface, 71 00:04:17,070 --> 00:04:26,070 we already were right at home and you'd really like it. [laughter/applause] 72 00:04:26,071 --> 00:04:31,071 Mary Ellen Weber: You know, a lot of folks have asked me, well you must be a real risk taker, 73 00:04:31,072 --> 00:04:33,172 and I really don't think that's true, 74 00:04:33,173 --> 00:04:35,173 I think I'm one of the most safety conscious people that I know. 75 00:04:35,174 --> 00:04:39,174 What I think I am is an opportunity seeker 76 00:04:39,175 --> 00:04:44,175 and I think that's what has lead me to be a part of the Astronaut Corps. 77 00:04:44,176 --> 00:04:47,176 and to some of the other things I've had an opportunity to do. 78 00:04:47,177 --> 00:04:50,177 And so I guess my only words of inspiration 79 00:04:50,178 --> 00:04:57,178 to an aspiring engineer and an aspiring astronaut is to seek out those opportunities. 80 00:04:57,179 --> 00:05:00,179 I recently had a newspaper ask me, 81 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:04,180 What was a key formative thing that happed to you 82 00:05:04,181 --> 00:05:09,481 that you think lead you to where you got to? 83 00:05:09,482 --> 00:05:13,482 And I recalled being in college, at Purdue University, 84 00:05:13,483 --> 00:05:17,483 and I remember seeing in the Purdue newspaper 85 00:05:17,484 --> 00:05:20,484 a little article about the Purdue Skydiving club. 86 00:05:20,485 --> 00:05:23,485 And it really consisted of one guy with a car 87 00:05:23,486 --> 00:05:26,786 that would drive out to the drop zone each weekend. [laughter] 88 00:05:27,487 --> 00:05:29,487 But it turns out so I called that number 89 00:05:29,488 --> 00:05:32,488 and I started that and that's what got me into aviation 90 00:05:32,489 --> 00:05:35,489 and I'm still involved in aviation and skydiving even today. 91 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:40,490 But had I not seen that little ad, 92 00:05:40,491 --> 00:05:44,491 had I not responded to it, had I not sought out that opportunity, 93 00:05:44,492 --> 00:05:50,492 this whole world that became open to me a decade later 94 00:05:50,493 --> 00:05:52,493 would not have become open to me. 95 00:05:52,494 --> 00:05:54,494 And so I guess that's my only words of inspiration 96 00:05:54,495 --> 00:05:56,495 is keep your eyes and ears open. 97 00:05:56,496 --> 00:06:00,496 Look for the tiniest opportunity to try something new,